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Narcism · May 09, 2007, 11:13 PM // 23:13

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Originally Posted by seut

Yes, it's a pve farming area

The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. If you want an example about PvP'ers whining about PvE changes, read the announcement for changing the Razah quest on the tgh forum.

Are we looking at the same thread? the thread I was looking at was mostly a bunch of replies essentially summarized as "why the christ are you posting this here?"

lyra_song · May 09, 2007, 11:21 PM // 23:21

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Originally Posted by MistressYichi

Exactically how is your PVE character marginalized because a few skins will be available to PVP players and NO ONE has a clue as to what these skins are.....

I wasnt talking about my PvE char. Its about marginalizing effort, regardless.

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Originally Posted by Ravengar Silvertree

Well, I'm not one to flame Anet, but this update is pretty lame for people that spent months farming a complete collection of Chaos axes, Fellblades, and Mursaat hammers of every possible mod for PVP [Hint, me]. If they wanted this feature they should have done it from the start instead of screwing people over. I hope at the very least 15k armor isn't available.

Ravengar is talking about his PvP-built PvE character.

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If PvP players do not care and would be willing to let PvE players a chance at PvP only emotes, then that sounds like a fair exchange to me.

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If Anet really wants PvPers to have something unique to reward them, they should have access to more skins that do not exist in PvE (like the Crystalline Sword).

A unique PvP-only armor to unlock through winning ATS would be more favorable since i would consider it "PVP-only" content.

Neo Nugget · May 09, 2007, 11:26 PM // 23:26

is this in effect as of now?If it is does anyone have a screen shot of the unlock menu?

seut · May 09, 2007, 11:29 PM // 23:29

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Originally Posted by Narcism

Are we looking at the same thread? the thread I was looking at was mostly a bunch of replies essentially summarized as "why the christ are you posting this here?"

If it's multiple posts about "how anet listens only to pve whiners instead of fixing the game" leading to Gaile's threat to stop official postings on that forum completely, then yes.

Yichi · May 09, 2007, 11:38 PM // 23:38

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

Well, no PvE player can go out and get a precious sword in a matter of minutes. You have to spend a day or two... even more.

yes they can. there are people selling them, even giving them away all day long... again this goes to the point i said earlier that we dont even have a clue as to what the skins will even be because this update hasnt been implimented yet...

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

First of all, I am a girl. So don't go around calling me sir.
Second of all, what does throwing flames at me earn you? E-Ego? Do you expect me to wither and die?
Third of all, thanks very much you think my opinion is expert.

First it doesnt matter...
Secondly I honestly dont care... when someone makes a stupid comment, they get a stupid reply...
Third I was being sarcastic. im pretty sure that was obvious, but aparently comprehending is a little too advanced....

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

It's FINE if you think that IT'S FAIR for PvE people to get SCREWED over. IT'S UP TO YOU!!!!! Also, it's fine if you think that YOU get to FREELY INSULT me because I play PvE. Again IT'S UP TO YOU!!!!! I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm sure that you aren't the only one running around trashing PvE because a teeny little level 6 charr demolished you... it's happened before, so does that mean PvE is now useless?

How is PVE getting screwed over? I mean honestly, nothing thats being suggested about AT's or their rewards have no affect on PVE. You flamed PVP players and the idea that they should even get any reward or anything only because they are a pvp character or player. In fact, if you read back on this thread, your whole posts towards PVP have been idiotic.... and no some lvl 6 charr didnt demolish me in pve, my gripe towards the whole PVE/PVP bitchfest is that one isnt better than the other, yet everyone bitches that they are and should be treated that way. I could care less if you dont want to PVP. Likewise you could care less if I prefered PVP. This game has facets for both areas of play and both should have options and personal preferences as to what, why, and how they play.

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

1,2,3,2,3,2,3 <-- Isn't that touch ranger?

Instead of randomly flaming people that you know nothing about, try gathering some manners, instead of spewing some random insults. Oh, and this isn't my thread.

I thought I could just post my thoughts and leave it, but I guess there will always be PvPers chasing me down.

Its also a boa sin, Sf ele, thumper, rit spiker, ranger spiker, mor mesmer.... the list goes on....

This whole thread is people randomly flaming things in which they have no idea about. I have said it i dont know how many times, no one knows what all will be involved in this update, because as usual, its not here yet....

and lastly if your thoughts had relevance and were informative towards the subject, you wouldnt have some PVP player pointing out your mistakes.

Yichi · May 09, 2007, 11:43 PM // 23:43

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

If PvP players do not care and would be willing to let PvE players a chance at PvP only emotes, then that sounds like a fair exchange to me.

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If Anet really wants PvPers to have something unique to reward them, they should have access to more skins that do not exist in PvE (like the Crystalline Sword).

A unique PvP-only armor to unlock through winning ATS would be more favorable since i would consider it "PVP-only" content.

PVE players go and get emotes all the time. I see numerous pve characters in HA that have a deer or whatever other emote they wanted.

and the crystaline skin is available to PVE. it was available for the longest time runnign the chests in dreadnaughts drift, and can still be gotten from reward quests in Sorrows furnace and Fissure of woe... so how is it limited to only pvp?

Taurucis · May 09, 2007, 11:45 PM // 23:45

Aren't those PvP builds >_> And try typing 1232323 with a boa sin, and see how far you get.

I reply to sarcasm, WITH sarcasm.

Just because you are a PvP player does not mean you can flame me, alright? Since when did I flame them? Did I say "You PvP people SUCK?"

And all your posts are randomly flaming me... whom you have no idea about...

LoKi Foxfire · May 09, 2007, 11:50 PM // 23:50

Remember when they touted Guild Wars as a no/low grind game?

What a load of horse shit that turned out to be.

Yichi · May 09, 2007, 11:54 PM // 23:54

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

Aren't those PvP builds >_> And try typing 1232323 with a boa sin, and see how far you get.

I reply to sarcasm, WITH sarcasm.

Just because you are a PvP player does not mean you can flame me, alright? Since when did I flame them? Did I say "You PvP people SUCK?

Ok im sorry. you one upp'd me. you have to press 1,2,3,4,5 with a boa sin, then repeat. i apologize... the point was that they are simple minded builds that take no skill to play. which is why everyone thinks of them as a gimmick build.

Also if you go back to page 6 and 8, you blatantly flame narcism one more than one occasion and basically come up with points to try and verify your position which are so far off base, they are in left field.

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

And all your posts are randomly flaming me... whom you have no idea about...

Who R You? oh thats right.. i honestly dont care.... its not just you. I flame anyone who makes a post that has no relevance or which is totally wrong with the information they are giving towards the subject. Which in this case, is 3/4 of the posts on here, because like i said this update hasnt been implimented yet, so NO ONE KNOWS... yet here we are jumping to conclusions and thus we have a 12 page long thread full of bullshit....

Taurucis · May 09, 2007, 11:57 PM // 23:57

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Originally Posted by MistressYichi

Ok im sorry. you one upp'd me. you have to press 1,2,3,4,5 with a boa sin, then repeat. i apologize... the point was that they are simple minded builds that take no skill to play. which is why everyone thinks of them as a gimmick build.

Also if you go back to page 6 and 8, you blatantly flame narcism one more than one occasion and basically come up with points to try and verify your position which are so far off base, they are in left field.

Who R You? oh thats right.. i honestly dont care.... its not just you. I flame anyone who makes a post that has no relevance or which is totally wrong with the information they are giving towards the subject. Which in this case, is 3/4 of the posts on here, because like i said this update hasnt been implimented yet, so NO ONE KNOWS... yet here we are jumping to conclusions and thus we have a 12 page long thread full of bullshit....

Khh... apathetic. I am not flaming Narcism... I am merely replying to his posts in the manner he used to reply to my posts.

If you read back, you will see, in my first post, something along the lines of "I'll wait for the update to come out" ?

Sir Skullcrasher · May 10, 2007, 12:01 AM // 00:01

wow, glad A-Net don't hang out special admin power to everyone like Counter Strike or those other FPS games.

Peoples, lets think for a second. There has to be a reason behind this madness. They have to keep both side (PvE and PvP) happy regardless if one side got screwed or not. This game is built with these two modes on there. What the hell were they suppose to do? Suppor only PvE and not PvP or the other way around. This would pissed out so many peoples in the community. It's true that PvP get something us PvEers don't have but we got something they don't. If A-Net were smart and if they wanted to milk this franchise.. hey lets seperate out PvE and PvP and make seperate games out of them? That would solve all this bitching and whinning!

PS we seriously need to close this flame thread or start axing those posts that doesn't nothing but adding fuel to this hell fire!!!!

who knows, in few weeks or months maybe us PvE will get something that PvP side don't have and this discussion starts over again!

Ec]-[oMaN · May 10, 2007, 12:33 AM // 00:33

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

A unique PvP-only armor to unlock through winning ATS would be more favorable since i would consider it "PVP-only" content.

Sure I would have really liked to see this happen instead. Although you and I know that every single PVE would be on the forums bitching their heads off. Look a the big stank which happens when two modes can ralatively gain the same rewards.

Yawgmoth · May 10, 2007, 12:48 AM // 00:48

I see really no reason why to complain here. It should have always been this way and we're finally getting this.

People just don't understand that it won't affect PvE in any way, your PvE items won't lose any (already crappy after recent updates) value because of this. This update won't affect your PvE world in any way so all those whining is just retarded.

Bryant Again · May 10, 2007, 12:54 AM // 00:54

Well I think I should fess up and say that I actually don't mind it a whole lot. It'll be interesting to see what they pick to be unlockable, nonetheless.

lyra_song · May 10, 2007, 12:57 AM // 00:57

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Originally Posted by MistressYichi

PVE players go and get emotes all the time. I see numerous pve characters in HA that have a deer or whatever other emote they wanted.

and the crystaline skin is available to PVE. it was available for the longest time runnign the chests in dreadnaughts drift, and can still be gotten from reward quests in Sorrows furnace and Fissure of woe... so how is it limited to only pvp?

Yes but those PvE characters got those emotes by play PvP. Right?

Im saying that PvE characters should be able to get PvP emotes by playing PvE only. Zero pvp.

Maybe i should be more specific in example. Inscribable rare weapons of Chapter 1 and 2. For how long PvP will have the monopoly on this i dont know (heres to hoping that inscriptions go to chapter 1 and 2).

Ehecatzin FlyingCrab · May 10, 2007, 01:34 AM // 01:34

I dont really see a problem with pvp'ers earning nice skins for their characters, I would have prefered to have pvp only armors but meh.

What I think could be really unfair is that lets say you make a pvp mesmer and unlock a virtuoso 15k armor, you can put the stats you please, but in the other hand I cant change the stats of the same armor for pve. of course I have diferent armors sets for pvp, but cant play pvp with the armor set I like the most.

I hope Anet makes old armor inscribable, or it will be unfair... and dont tell me that make a pvp thing... if both pvp and pve players work hard to get a nice armor skin, it can only be fair that both of them can adjust it to whatever they need at the time.

Age · May 10, 2007, 01:46 AM // 01:46

What a nice way to shaft a loyal bunch of over a 1000 customers.I wonder how those who don't know this would feel after farming or playing over 1000 hours or more like 2000+hrs.I wonder of the prosperity of GW2 now.

Alderin · May 10, 2007, 02:06 AM // 02:06

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

Yes but those PvE characters got those emotes by play PvP. Right?

Im saying that PvE characters should be able to get PvP emotes by playing PvE only. Zero pvp.

Maybe i should be more specific in example. Inscribable rare weapons of Chapter 1 and 2. For how long PvP will have the monopoly on this i dont know (heres to hoping that inscriptions go to chapter 1 and 2).

Thats seems to be the biggest issue here. PvPist will be able to get PvE stuff shortly without ever touching PvE yet PvE can't get the PvP stuff without having to PvP.

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Originally Posted by Ehecatzin FlyingCrab

What I think could be really unfair is that lets say you make a pvp mesmer and unlock a virtuoso 15k armor, you can put the stats you please, but in the other hand I cant change the stats of the same armor for pve. of course I have diferent armors sets for pvp, but cant play pvp with the armor set I like the most.

I hope Anet makes old armor inscribable, or it will be unfair... and dont tell me that make a pvp thing... if both pvp and pve players work hard to get a nice armor skin, it can only be fair that both of them can adjust it to whatever they need at the time.

Good points there. The only way to make PvP = PvE balance in design is to make all the armors work exactly the same as in they can look one way but have the inscriptions to make them work the way you want with the look you want.

For the old armors they can add an NPC to the main towns (LA, Kaineng Center, and Kamadan) that will make your old armor inscribable and start it out with the inscription for what what the armor used to have. This would also let Elementlist from Prophecies have the Energy Bonus Armor.

Ec]-[oMaN · May 10, 2007, 02:09 AM // 02:09

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Originally Posted by Age

What a nice way to shaft a loyal bunch of over a 1000 customers.I wonder how those who don't know this would feel after farming or playing over 1000 hours or more like 2000+hrs.I wonder of the prosperity of GW2 now.

How about all the PVP players, who have spent over 3000 hours PVPing, only to now have the option at different items that will probably take another 3000 hours to unlock. Near sighted, I swear.

Terra Xin · May 10, 2007, 02:19 AM // 02:19

Zinger!!! Stop making threads with with direction to information that hasn't been clarified yet!!! Too many people are basing their arguments on unspecified information.

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Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher

They have to keep both side (PvE and PvP) happy regardless if one side got screwed or not.

Contradicting statement. If you say one side gets screwed, do you ever hear the other side respond; "Oh well?". When one side gloats, the other side gets angry. It doesn't matter what Anet does, something will turn out badly in the community.